{"id":45,"date":"2008-06-23T16:32:47","date_gmt":"2008-06-23T14:32:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.debatrix.com\/nl\/?page_id=45"},"modified":"2024-02-13T14:33:24","modified_gmt":"2024-02-13T13:33:24","slug":"job-ten-bosch","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.debatrix.com\/nl\/organisatie\/wie-we-zijn\/job-ten-bosch\/","title":{"rendered":"Job ten Bosch"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-1p4p6ar-6590379e5b31413030599b8648942173\">\n.avia-section.av-1p4p6ar-6590379e5b31413030599b8648942173 .av-extra-border-element .av-extra-border-inner{\nbackground-color:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div id='av_section_1'  class='avia-section av-1p4p6ar-6590379e5b31413030599b8648942173 alternate_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-0  el_before_av_section  avia-builder-el-first  intro avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><main  role=\"main\" itemprop=\"mainContentOfPage\"  class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-45'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-4v47z7-44bb8f1caea491ca0888471d35250526\">\n.flex_column.av-4v47z7-44bb8f1caea491ca0888471d35250526{\n-webkit-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n-moz-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div class='flex_column av-4v47z7-44bb8f1caea491ca0888471d35250526 av_three_fourth  avia-builder-el-1  avia-builder-el-no-sibling  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding '     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-akwd-6a18382998187289117cc70bbd4fa91a\">\n#top .av-special-heading.av-akwd-6a18382998187289117cc70bbd4fa91a{\npadding-bottom:10px;\n}\nbody .av-special-heading.av-akwd-6a18382998187289117cc70bbd4fa91a .av-special-heading-tag .heading-char{\nfont-size:25px;\n}\n.av-special-heading.av-akwd-6a18382998187289117cc70bbd4fa91a .av-subheading{\nfont-size:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='av-special-heading av-akwd-6a18382998187289117cc70bbd4fa91a av-special-heading-h1 blockquote modern-quote  avia-builder-el-2  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '><h1 class='av-special-heading-tag'  itemprop=\"headline\"  >Job ten Bosch<\/h1><div class=\"special-heading-border\"><div class=\"special-heading-inner-border\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/main><!-- close content main element --><\/div><div class='av-extra-border-element border-extra-diagonal  '><div class='av-extra-border-outer'><div class='av-extra-border-inner'><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div id='av_section_2'  class='avia-section av-1ugh1-b62c6e5d6130f7711c811fd44f0bc139 main_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-3  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-45'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-1gixh-c786c17ae85ffbea0cf10eae75b74037\">\n.flex_column.av-1gixh-c786c17ae85ffbea0cf10eae75b74037{\n-webkit-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n-moz-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div class='flex_column av-1gixh-c786c17ae85ffbea0cf10eae75b74037 av_two_third  avia-builder-el-4  el_before_av_one_third  avia-builder-el-first  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding '     ><p><section  class='av_textblock_section av-kljlyk3r-6cf606626ac4d45f8908c6c3df632188'  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p><strong>Job ten Bosch <\/strong>is directeur en mede-eigenaar van Debatrix. Wil jij jouw propositie zo aanscherpen dat het onweerstaanbaar wordt? Wil jij jouw verhaal zo inspirerend maken dat mensen het niet alleen onthouden, maar dat ze jouw verhaal doorvertellen en vaker willen horen? Nou, dan zou je weleens bij Job aan het juiste adres kunnen zijn. (zo&#8217;n zin zou Job overigens zelf nooit schrijven \ud83d\ude09 ).<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n<div  class='avia-button-wrap av-klknsd9u-55de6fa98f538494dffa88baa8a42e12-wrap avia-button-left  avia-builder-el-6  el_after_av_textblock  avia-builder-el-last '><a href='https:\/\/www.debatrix.com\/nl\/contact\/'  class='avia-button av-klknsd9u-55de6fa98f538494dffa88baa8a42e12 avia-icon_select-yes-left-icon avia-size-large avia-position-left av-icon-on-hover avia-color-theme-color'  ><span class='avia_button_icon avia_button_icon_left' aria-hidden='true' data-av_icon='\ue85e' data-av_iconfont='entypo-fontello'><\/span><span class='avia_iconbox_title' >Ik wil graag met Job in contact komen<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/p><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-9oh-1223b5c9d77d21fe357b27689e851350\">\n.flex_column.av-9oh-1223b5c9d77d21fe357b27689e851350{\n-webkit-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n-moz-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 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itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Job heeft een achtergrond in Technische Bedrijfskunde, Innovatie Management, Energiebeheer, Business Valuation, didactief en gedragspsychologie. Ja, overal heeft hij opleidingen in gedaan en afgerond. Leren vindt hij dus leuk. Maar dat wil niet zeggen dat hij van nature makkelijk leerde. Wel las hij voor de geboorte van zijn twee kids \u00e9\u00e9n non-fictieboek per week (nu is dat er \u00e9\u00e9n per drie weken). Zo blijf je jezelf ontwikkelen. Zelf schrijft hij ook actief. Zo publiceerde hij artikelen bij NRC,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cmweb.nl\">CM:<\/a> MT.nl, Executive Finance, Sprout en natuurlijk de <a href=\"https:\/\/www.debatrix.com\/nl\/organisatie\/overtuigtips\/\">wekelijkse overtuigtips<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In een vorig leven was hij betrokken bij de introductie van schone voertuigtechnologie. Ontwikkelde hij een incubator voor CleanTech groeibedrijven en was hij betrokken bij de start van een Europees Kennis Economie Platform.<\/p>\n<p>Als ondernemer zet hij graag met en voor andere ondernemers nieuwe businesses op. Dat doet hij vaak in joint venture verband waarbij hij graag werkt met de toppers in hun domein en hij de propositie en uitrol op zich neemt. Die diversiteit aan activiteit gecombineerd met een sterke focus op het neerzetten van een overtuigend verhaal maakt Job tot een uitstekende sparringspartner.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div><div id='av_section_4'  class='avia-section av-klt8u7g8-56321ede564f2b432902a6b49fec84f0 main_color avia-section-default avia-no-border-styling  avia-builder-el-14  el_after_av_section  avia-builder-el-last  avia-bg-style-scroll container_wrap fullsize'  ><div class='container av-section-cont-open' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-45'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-klt8tce8-3-e7e0436b6e94db4ec1570f1261ce1ed9\">\n.flex_column.av-klt8tce8-3-e7e0436b6e94db4ec1570f1261ce1ed9{\n-webkit-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n-moz-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div class='flex_column av-klt8tce8-3-e7e0436b6e94db4ec1570f1261ce1ed9 av_three_fifth  avia-builder-el-15  el_before_av_two_fifth  avia-builder-el-first  first flex_column_div av-animated-generic right-to-left av-zero-column-padding '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-klkmpss4-2-4d71b29badddf55e917b5df8b7b71115'  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h3>Publicaties<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Job is co-auteur van de bestseller [Ik krijg altijd gelijk], die inmiddels ook in het Engels is vertaald.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Daarnaast publiceerde hij ruim 30 artikelen in landelijke dagbladen, waaronder:<\/p>\n<div class=\"publication\">\n<h3><a title=\"Permanente link: Beste bazen, toon emotie, doe niet als Rinus de Robot\" href=\"..\/..\/nl\/2013\/11\/artikel-nrc-next-beste-bazen-toon-emotie-doe-niet-als-rinus-de-robot\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener noreferrer\">Beste bazen, toon emotie, doe niet als <em>Rinus de Robot<\/em><\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Lars Duursma, Job ten Bosch (2013)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"darkgrey\">Gepubliceerd in nrc.next op 12 november 2013<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"publication\">\n<h3><a title=\"Permanente link: Complimenteus, maar niet heus\" href=\"..\/..\/nl\/2008\/04\/complimenteus-maar-niet-heus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener noreferrer\">Complimenteus, maar niet heus<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Lars Duursma, Job ten Bosch (2008)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"darkgrey\">Gepubliceerd in nrc.next op 21 april 2008<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"publication\">\n<h3><a title=\"Permanente link: Abstract verhaal? Maak het menselijker\" href=\"..\/..\/nl\/2008\/04\/deel-23-abstract-verhaal-maak-het-menselijker\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener noreferrer\">Abstract verhaal? Maak het menselijker<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Lars Duursma, Job ten Bosch (2008)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"darkgrey\">Gepubliceerd in nrc.next op 14 april 2008<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"publication\">\n<h3><a title=\"Permanente link: Zorg voor een beetje emotie\" href=\"..\/..\/nl\/2008\/04\/deel-22-zorg-voor-een-beetje-emotie\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener noreferrer\">Zorg voor een beetje emotie<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Lars Duursma, Job ten Bosch (2008)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"darkgrey\">Gepubliceerd in nrc.next op 7 april 2008<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"publication\">\n<h3><a title=\"Permanente link: Laat de grootste roddeltante het werk doen\" href=\"..\/..\/nl\/2008\/03\/deel-21-laat-de-grootste-roddeltante-het-werk-doen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener noreferrer\">Laat de grootste roddeltante het werk doen<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Lars Duursma, Job ten Bosch (2008)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"darkgrey\">Gepubliceerd in nrc.next op 31 maart 2008<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"publication\">\n<h3><a title=\"Permanente link: Laat ze maar lachen!\" href=\"..\/..\/nl\/2008\/03\/deel-20-laat-ze-maar-lachen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener noreferrer\">Laat ze maar lachen!<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Lars Duursma, Job ten Bosch (2008)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"darkgrey\">Gepubliceerd in nrc.next op 17 maart 2008<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"publication\">\n<h3><a title=\"Permanente link: Verpak jezelf in een succesverhaal\" href=\"..\/..\/nl\/2008\/03\/deel-19-verpak-jezelf-in-een-succesverhaal\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener noreferrer\">Verpak jezelf in een succesverhaal<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Lars Duursma, Job ten Bosch (2008)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"darkgrey\">Gepubliceerd in nrc.next op 10 maart 2008<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-klt8tce8-1-6fa985e45ad4ecf52302e2e84a0e0a39\">\n.flex_column.av-klt8tce8-1-6fa985e45ad4ecf52302e2e84a0e0a39{\n-webkit-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n-moz-border-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div class='flex_column av-klt8tce8-1-6fa985e45ad4ecf52302e2e84a0e0a39 av_two_fifth  avia-builder-el-17  el_after_av_three_fifth  avia-builder-el-last  flex_column_div av-animated-generic right-to-left av-zero-column-padding '     ><style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-kltd5c17-6542a49b160c1cd67734987d8561ed94\">\n.avia-image-container.av-kltd5c17-6542a49b160c1cd67734987d8561ed94 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-kltd5c17-6542a49b160c1cd67734987d8561ed94 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-kltd5c17-6542a49b160c1cd67734987d8561ed94 av-styling- avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-18  avia-builder-el-no-sibling '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" class='wp-image-14045 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-14045 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/www.debatrix.com\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/cover-ik-krijg-altijd-gelijk-175-nieuw.jpg\" alt='' title='Ik krijg altijd gelijk'  height=\"257\" width=\"175\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"parent":8,"menu_order":10,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-45","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.0 (Yoast SEO v27.6) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Job ten Bosch - Debatrix\u00ae Vergroot je overtuigingskracht!<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Job ten Bosch is directeur en mede-eigenaar van Debatrix. 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